Musings on the Health Care Summit: What was accomplished?


February 25, 2010

Jim Campbell

Like many of you I had eagerly waited to see today’s non-event.   My estimation of its success was an understatement.  I didn’t fall asleep. The first two hours showed spirited debate. With Obama giving his opening remarks, he actually seemed presidential.  The cameraman who obtained several pictures of him bowing to Nancy Pelosi had the memory card from his camera seized and was taken to D.C. lock-up accused of being a Republican paparazzi.  He was held and later released.

This was to be the coming together of some of the “smartest minds” in America to get the Pelosi/Heid/Obama health care scam to have republican support.  That did not happen.  Why? The democrats used their time with letters from their district telling heart-felt stories of people who lost their insurance.  Substantive facts were rarely if ever offered offered.

On the other had, the republicans came prepared with a very deep understanding of the bill. They quoted from it, to the point where President not once but twice, told them that telling the meeting what was wrong with the bill was not a productive use of time.  Say what??? He and his democratic minions only wanted to hear the what the republicans like about the bill. Sounds like a great way to compromise to me, LOL.

Lemar Alexander made the opening statement for the republicans, the usual talking points with the suggestion that Obama immediately get rid of both bills in the house and senate and take reconciliation off the table.  This was again repeated buy a number of republicans and repeatedly ignored.

Nancy Pelosi inexplicably said, we must approve the entire bill because it will “create 400 million, I mean 4 hundred thousand new jobs almost immediately. Earth to Nancy, please get a CT scan of your brain, it does not seem to be functioning properly.  You mention our current HCS is an anvil around the necks of job creation, actually it’s you and your failed policies that are sending jobs away and kill new job creation. She was not challenged on this fabricated bizarre statement.  Nancy …the bill doesn’t go into effect until 2013 with people beginning to pay oppressive taxes in two thousand and eleven. Immediate jobs? Ya think?

In general, President Obama and the democrats, stood firm on a one size fits all, centralized approach on health care.  They foolishly continued to demonize the profits of the health care industry and the fact that prices were going up to consumers.  Sadly they appear to be unaware that the industry as a whole, operates on a 2.5% net profits. Tax payers dollars will be used for abortion, $500 billion will be taken from medicare which they claim won’t have an effect on medical care, but target waste, fraud and abuse to make up the difference.  The thing the Democrats are incapable of grasping is that big government programs are rarely successful with Medicaid contributing to $34 trillion dollars of unfunded liability. Social Security and is in a far worse fiscal situation bringing their combined total to $107 trillion. That’s right, $107 trillion that our children, our grandchildren and their children will be forced to pay.

The Democrats on multiple occasions  played the “Ted Card hoping to induce guilt, republicans would have none of it. Republicans kept hammering at the cost, in the trillions of democrat’s plan , and it’s job killing effect. Again they came with facts and figures to back their assertions.

Harry Reid made an impassioned plea, trying to tie lack of health care to 45,000 people who die each year (sorry Harry, tied to and causality are absolutely two different things.) The study is also completely refuted by other sources. Then from thin air he asserted  75o,000 bankrupcy  cases filed in in 2008,  70% of which were alleged to be caused by medical issues.  (Note to Harry, dude, stay off the bong!) Isn’t it great to see the bizarre fantasies of this clown up close and personal?   As I was tearing up over these alleged figures, I wonder why he didn’t blame the entire Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac debacle on lack of health care insurance?

The democrats have no credible plan for Malpractice reform in their bill and alleged that awards only contributed to 2% of the cost of medical care.  Apparently lost upon them were the needles tests that doctors continually must request to provide defensive medicine.  Are the performing these test for the patients, sometimes, but more frequently they use expensive tests to protect themselves from the ambulance chasers.

The republicans repeatedly made the case for a smaller incremental bill in areas where both parties agree. Obama and the democrats would not budge. It was as suggested prior to the summit, a see it our way or see the highway event.  News flash to democrats, enjoy Route 66.

Areas of potential agreement:

1. One of three dollars spent on health care doesn’t go to patient care. Republicans suggested standardizing forms among insurance companies to simply filing claims.

2 Fraud abuse and theft are rampant in the Medicare system. Republicans suggested using undercover patients, a novel idea. Note, Obama thought that an excellent idea, file under sound bites as he was only thinking of a way to create more government jobs.

3. Both groups favored developing large cooperatives that would allow small businesses to band together to have a broad enough pool of patients to make the companies offer them much lower rates.

Democrats preferring cooperatives set up by the Federal Government.

4. Both groups favored purchasing insurance in any state of the union, democrats did so requiring they met government guidelines. Republicans disagreed suggesting that a rating system be                  developed using existing guidelines, with using a check system for those meeting and not meeting said guidelines.  Republicans were troubled by the democratic proposals which included a board which would essentially fix prices on insurance companies.  Price fixing has never worked.

5. Both parties were in favor of outlawing the process of red lining for pre-existing illness.

6. Both groups would not allow insurance companies  to drop a policy holder because a member of the family develops an expensive disease

7.  Finally both parties agreed in principle that the vast majority of people could be insured, the difference is the democratic party  would be by mandate, and potentially unconstitutional.

Finally my take:  Will the democrats use reconciliation  with its requirement of only 51 votes instead of 60  attach the largest bill in history as an amendment to a spending bill?  Most of the pundits say yes! My take is that they won’t.  It would become the demise of the radical left forever.   Though the democrats weren’t seriously listening to republican proposals, I believe the good thing coming from the summit  is they will ultimately put in place the ideas they agree upon, thus assuring Obama a watered down win which will infuriate his far left base.  We wait now with bated breath to see if Nancy will bring out the knives, whips and chains to intimidate the newer members of the house to vote for this bill.  Again, I believe it will fall on its own weight and the newer more moderate members will not be willing to purchase a ticked that is loaded with terrorists and explosives.

Probably the most important single value of this summit was that Americans for the first time could see and hear that republicans take our health care very seriously, they came so prepared with facts, expressing the rationale ideas of immediate implementation in areas of agreement. The democrats on the other hand, showed complete lack of interest in the vast majority of people that reject a government take over of 17% of our GDP.  A final question if Obama care is so important to the uninsured, why wait until 2013 until it can be implemented.  Answer, so the government will be able to tax everyone during the next two and all future years for something we don’t want.

In his closing remarks, Obama concludes agreement may be impossible, hints that he will follow other option.

Random thoughts while watching Kabuki theater, on a Thursday morning, J.C.

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8 responses to “Musings on the Health Care Summit: What was accomplished?

  1. VERY WELL STATED JIM! As always, GREAT PICTURE STORY TO GO ALONG WITH TARGETED FACTS! OBTW, HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY!! Sending you 40 cyber candles b/c I couldn’t fit the additional large number needed into print! HA! :-)

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  3. I didn’t get to watch all of the summit, but I did get to see where Pelosi sat there and said that there was no provision for Government funded abortions in this bill. What?? Did I misunderstand and see and hear this out of context, or was she just lying thru her teeth like she always does? Cause this article says: “Tax payers dollars will be used for abortion.”

    I have to commend the Republicans though, I felt that their heart just wasn’t in this to fight to stop this horrendous bill before, but I could see that they were trying very hard in this summit and took trying to work out a much better health care plan very seriously. But still, no matter what the Dems do, even if they ram this thing thru, the Republicans and the American people should refuse to accept this as law!!! I don’t know how that would work, but accepting and allowing this bill to become law is NOT AN OPTION, NO MATTER WHAT!!!

  4. albert w loescher

    Several months ago, I suggested to all GOP senators that they should designate themselves as the the ‘party of KNOW’. The Democrat asses know what they are doing: It is their conscious intention to bankrupt US. My query is: what will be their reward? Will the new management, the owners of the $100 trillion chit, allow control by idiots? NOT!
    awl

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  7. A great article detailing how Americans feel about the healthcare proposal…not the administration…isn’t that what it is all supposed to be about???

    http://crosssection.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/how-many-times-must-we-defeat-the-healthcare-bill/

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